Saving the Internet (for the Future): Last year, the Dark Tangent wrote in the DC XXI program that the "balance has swung radically in favor of the offense, and defense seems futile." It has always been easier to attack than to defend on the Internet, even back to 1979 when it was written that "few if any security controls can stop a dedicated" red team. We all accept this as true but the community rarely ever looks at the longer term implications of what happens to the internet if one side has a persistent advantage year after year, decade after decade. Is there a tipping point where the internet becomes no longer a Wild West but Somalia, a complete unstable chaos where the attackers don't just have an advantage but a long-term supremacy? This talk will look at trends and the role of hackers and security researchers.